Well, believe it or not, my invitation to meet was not acknowedged in any way. This is an admission on the part of the sisters that they KNOW BEYOND A DOUBT that I am NOT Joan Wheeler, and they're too egotistical to admit it, too cowardly to meet with me, and/or too ignorant to engage in any form of rational communication. If they can't spew hate, they can't imagine what other form of communication, ( such as a civil discussion ), might be available to them.
Let me explain that the loss of a parent leaves it's mark on children, and they have to find, or be given, a way in which to effectively deal with their loss. Of the four sisters and one brother, Joan is the only one who has sought that assistance. The brother is deceased, but the sisters have had unresolved issues, and not one of the three who are persecuting Joan has sought that help. Their loss is still a festering wound, and it has turned into an emotional cancer. All they are able to do at this point is to spew the poison out at a seemingly defenseless target.
Joan has offered to discuss the issues involved with being adopted with members of both her families. Not one of them has shown any interest in the way she feels or the affect adoption has had on her. They persecute her from their total callousness and ignorance, with the attitude that since THEY'RE not adopted, it's not important. With them, it's all "ME, ME, ME, and the hell with how anyone else, ESPECIALLY our own sister, feels."
They also claim Joan doesn't work. Isn't being a published author legitimate work? Yet they destroy the work Joan does produce. They also write their boring, vapid, whining blogs falsely defaming her, then criticize her for being disabled and not holding a "REAL job." And these are the kind of people you want to follow? These are the kind of people with whom you would be associated, or on whom you would rely for factual information? Just reflect on the fact that you're known by the compay you keep. And remember that if you actually can get through the trash the sisters are writing without getting bored to death or throwing up, there are two sides to every story. I suggest you take a look at Joan's side before you make up you mind.
Joan Wheeler obviously doesn’t read the NEWS…that is our blogs…or she would know already that she is dead and gone already! No, she NEEDS ATTENTION and we haven’t been giving her any!
ReplyDeleteby gertmcqueen on June 14, 2012
We have answered Joan’s alter-ego Champ several days ago and have gone on to other things…but…I shall answer this newest one, from today, anyway…and I do believe that I shall post it on the stupid blog so that she/he/it…sees it
Why is it that Joan, IN THE GUISE OF CHAMP, must continue on and on with this nonsense…doesn’t she know that she is done for? Come on Joan get with the program already…oh wait, NOW I get it, you wrote this little ‘NEWSFLASH’ AFTER my blog post of this week! You had to see what I was going to say before you, as Champ, continued on with your stupid nonsense…
I have already STATED what my position is on this issue…Champ/Joan…and Ruth has already STATED that she WILL answer when she has the time…what the hell is your problem? Can’t you wait? Do you really need the attention THAT FUCKING BAD?
To answer the following statement…
The invitation WAS acknowledged…you just haven’t looked at the right place, my blog, to get that answer.
The admission is that we sisters know that Champ is Joan Wheeler…it is NOT US that need to prove anything. We are not interested in Champ, we are interested in Joan Wheeler. And, if Champ is another person….how come he doesn’t know that JOAN removed the birth siblings from her web site?? Is this another Joan attempt to muddy the waters of reality? Maybe Joan ought to get control of her friends, real and imaginary, because they really are out of control with reality. Come on Joan…you are NOT HELPING YOURSELF
Unless there is any financial payments exchanged between ‘the sisters’ and this alter-ego of Joan Wheeler, named Champ, there is NO NEED for Champ/Joan to give their EXPERT opinion about anything related to us…this attempt, of Champ’s, only proves that it is Joan Wheeler, for she is so full of her own self-importance that she can’t let it alone.
This statement, of Champ’s, which is Joan Wheeler, sounds just like the nonsense that people like Joe Soll likes to talk about….sorry…but there is NOTHING WRONG with the birth-sibling’s ‘issues’…we have dealt with those issues, a long time ago, and are in no need for any kind of psych babble nonsense. We are NOT THE ADOPTEE and therefore have NONE OF THOSE ISSUES, that adoptees have. Furthermore…any asshole who thinks they can intimidate me, via some stupid blog post, really needs to get their head examined. I do not live for Joan Wheeler nor any other person’s opinion of me…you DO NOT MATTER IN THE LEAST TO MY LIFE
You know Joan you really need to put this shit to bed! What accomplished author are you? Your one and only book was PULLED FROM PUBLICATION BECAUSE IT CONTAINED LIBELOUS MATERIAL. We did NOT destroy any work that Joan did…she LIED and that was what GOT DESTROYED… a person can NOT write libelous material and consider that LEGITIMATE WORK. …get real.
Just who do you think you are talking to? And, how many times do we have to tell you, Joan…do the spell checker!!! You really want the world to believe that Champ is NOT YOU when he speaks and spells just like you! Use the spell checker, idiot.
What an asshole you are! Joan Wheeler JUST REMOVED REFERENCES TO THE BIRTH SIBLINGS FROM HER BLOG….so why is Champ bitching about us…
Champ…old buddy…if you are NOT Joan Wheeler, then you had better get your act in line with her because she just removed US, THOSE BAD SIBLINGS from her blog…and
If you are JOAN WHEELER…than you really need to see your mental health person ponto…because you are really off your rocker
O dear, Gertie! I see you're still in denial! It was actually YOU and your sisters who did the whining! Why? Jealous because Joan has a talent which, after reading the whining, complaining piece of garbage you so egotistically call a blog, you display a total lack of, you can't hide that lack? You are obviously so ignorant of creative writing that you can't recognize a different style when you see one. Calling Joan the names you do just obviates the fact that, when it comes to compassion, understanding, and just plain class, you're TOTALLY lacking in any of those categories! I am not Joan any more than you're the Queen of England, and THAT'S the truth. So which is it, Potty Mouth? Are you ignorant or just stupid? Please keep in mind they are not mutually exclusive. You obviously are both. And, by the way, if you answered me on your blog, I couldn't be bothered reading that trash, so I received no response.
ReplyDeletePick a time in the next 2 weeks to meet and I'll pick the place. Respond here, or show yourself the ignorant coward you are. ( Clue! If I was an author, I would use spellcheck, wouldn't I? )
Both you and the other wicked sister. You should be at least bright enough to read a calendar! I won't waste my time on any of the "blogs" you two write, so no response here = no response.
Joan, or if you like Champ, I see that your maturity level is such that you still must take all directions from Joan's mind that must call her grown siblings by a childhood name. Fact reminds Joan never knew me as Gertie, she picked that up from family usage by certain people that I 'allowed' to call me that. Joan NEVER called me Gertie, ever! Why? Because she was not ALLOWED to by me. She only has began to use it, as an insult to me, as she does when she insults Ruth by calling her Ruthie. Both of us are fully aware of this tactic and it does not work! Only an immature 'friend' would continue to use this obvious little-girl taunt that Joan likes to use. Don't you, Champ, have any BRAIN of your own? Why can't you speak a different tongue/language other than Joan-speak/language? We know why of course, but you can't cause you live inside Joan's brain.
DeleteDenial?? No not on this side of sanity! Every agrument that Joan has presented as to what is wrong with her sibilings is a form of TRANSFERENCE on her part and she does it to justify her own lack of sanity. How long did you say you know Joan, Champ? A real human being that has been around the real Joan would know just how in denial she is! Your opinion means nothing to me. It is you that needs me to accept that you are NOT Joan not the other way around. Find another play-mate, I won't play your game!
You mistake reporting and exposing the lies and other dirty deeds of Joan's as whining. We are not whining...we are not complaining about anything...we took ACTION, we are in ACTIVE participation of documenting and reporting all dirty deeds if Joan Wheeler's and we shall continue to do so until she removes her other two blogs against us, champ's blog being one of them!
There's that jealous line again! A direct Joan issue if there ever was one! Transference! Joan is jealous of her siblings, always has been and always will be. It is one of the prime movers in her quest to paint the birth family in terms less than the one she has of herself. We are been there/done this before...with this jealously thing...Joan...get a new line will you! What the hell are we suppose to be jealous of? Joan's talent! She can have ALL THE CREDIT for her talents she wants...I give her CREDIT FOR HER TALENT...I want none of it! And we are giving her full credit for her talents by EXPOSING all her talents!
The word ego and all forms of the word is another Joan speak/language...Joan is the one who always speaks about the egos of others...particularly those that call her a liar, that have caught her in a dirty deed, or any other form of flaw in her personality. According to Joan she doesn't have an ego...it's everyone else's ego that is the problem!
Joan/Champ...your blogs and writings certainly display the qualities of the writer and that can't be hid, either, so what's your point?
Slipped up here you did, Joan! Early on Pilgrim, another aspect of Champ, in the triad of figmentation of Joan, that is Pilgrim/Brian/Champ, attempted to impress us into believing that they are not Joan by a show and tell that they know other languages that Joan does not know. And now Champ/Joan is telling us, informing us actually, that she is using ANOTHER writing style to prove to us that this writer is NOT JOAN. What bullshit! Joan Wheeler only knows one style of writing and everything that Pilgrim/Brian/Champ writes is JOAN...so cut the act already!
I never said I had any compassion for Joan...that is yet another one of Joan's signature words/concepts that she uses whenever she is feeling the pain of her own guilt being thrown at her. Did Joan have any compassion for her birthsiblings when she did all those dirty deeds to us? Of course NOT, so she should NOT BE LOOKING FOR IT NOW, from us.
Joan, or if you like Champ, I see that your maturity level is such that you still must take all directions from Joan's mind that must call her grown siblings by a childhood name. Fact reminds Joan never knew me as Gertie, she picked that up from family usage by certain people that I 'allowed' to call me that. Joan NEVER called me Gertie, ever! Why? Because she was not ALLOWED to by me. She only has began to use it, as an insult to me, as she does when she insults Ruth by calling her Ruthie. Both of us are fully aware of this tactic and it does not work! Only an immature 'friend' would continue to use this obvious little-girl taunt that Joan likes to use. Don't you, Champ, have any BRAIN of your own? Why can't you speak a different tongue/language other than Joan-speak/language? We know why of course, but you can't cause you live inside Joan's brain.
ReplyDeleteDenial?? No not on this side of sanity! Every agrument that Joan has presented as to what is wrong with her sibilings is a form of TRANSFERENCE on her part and she does it to justify her own lack of sanity. How long did you say you know Joan, Champ? A real human being that has been around the real Joan would know just how in denial she is! Your opinion means nothing to me. It is you that needs me to accept that you are NOT Joan not the other way around. Find another play-mate, I won't play your game!
You mistake reporting and exposing the lies and other dirty deeds of Joan's as whining. We are not whining...we are not complaining about anything...we took ACTION, we are in ACTIVE participation of documenting and reporting all dirty deeds if Joan Wheeler's and we shall continue to do so until she removes her other two blogs against us, champ's blog being one of them!
There's that jealous line again! A direct Joan issue if there ever was one! Transference! Joan is jealous of her siblings, always has been and always will be. It is one of the prime movers in her quest to paint the birth family in terms less than the one she has of herself. We are been there/done this before...with this jealously thing...Joan...get a new line will you! What the hell are we suppose to be jealous of? Joan's talent! She can have ALL THE CREDIT for her talents she wants...I give her CREDIT FOR HER TALENT...I want none of it! And we are giving her full credit for her talents by EXPOSING all her talents!
The word ego and all forms of the word is another Joan speak/language...Joan is the one who always speaks about the egos of others...particularly those that call her a liar, that have caught her in a dirty deed, or any other form of flaw in her personality. According to Joan she doesn't have an ego...it's everyone else's ego that is the problem!
Joan/Champ...your blogs and writings certainly display the qualities of the writer and that can't be hid, either, so what's your point?
Slipped up here you did, Joan! Early on Pilgrim, another aspect of Champ, in the triad of figmentation of Joan, that is Pilgrim/Brian/Champ, attempted to impress us into believing that they are not Joan by a show and tell that they know other languages that Joan does not know. And now Champ/Joan is telling us, informing us actually, that she is using ANOTHER writing style to prove to us that this writer is NOT JOAN. What bullshit! Joan Wheeler only knows one style of writing and everything that Pilgrim/Brian/Champ writes is JOAN...so cut the act already!
I never said I had any compassion for Joan...that is yet another one of Joan's signature words/concepts that she uses whenever she is feeling the pain of her own guilt being thrown at her. Did Joan have any compassion for her birthsiblings when she did all those dirty deeds to us? Of course NOT, so she should NOT BE LOOKING FOR IT NOW, from us.
part 2 Understanding, of the core issues, that the birth siblings have with Joan, is her lying and publishing a libelous book and her continuation of lying and talking about us, for her own hard-on/bitch against adoption. The birth siblings never have and never will fit into Joan's warped sense of reality and because of that Joan can not UNDERSTAND what is the core issue...she must always throw it out that the siblings are wrong and lack this that and the other thing. Try again!! Better still...get a muzzle!
ReplyDeleteWhile we are talking about name calling and lack of 'class'...let me get this straight...it is perfectly acceptable and right that Joan can call her siblings names and show no sense of class but it is NOT acceptable and right for the siblings to do so? Right...again...another Joan Wheeler character flaw!
And Joan has never used a potty mouth! These couple of statements are from a little girl throwing a temper tantrum and NOT FROM a man that Champ claims to be nor from a DEFENDER that Champ claims to be. Champ go back under your rock! Any man who SPEAKS like this to WOMEN is only showing their character flaws and it is quite plain for all to see that Champ is a abuser of women!
ignorant and stupid that is, right! in your book but your opinion means less than nothing to me...I'm not impressed with you either. Too bad that you are NOT reading my blog for you are missing a great deal of truth telling. But of course, Joan, you don't want to read the truth for the truth hurts you too much. No one else is listening to you, are they Joan, that is why you MUST keep this Champ character around...hey...I was under the impression that he was ONLY going to speak up in your defense when we spoke up on adoption sites! Hey...Champ you are harassing and stalking us. You created a blog with the expressed intention of harassing and browbeating us siblings! Way to go man...you sure are show your class!
What are you nuts!! You are the one who has the warped logic that says...if we do not MET with you we agree that you are NOT Joan...sorry that logic is not only warped but crazy! No one in their right mind would agree to met with an obviously abuser. Get this straight...the birth siblings know who they are, we do not hide under false names, we do not have to prove our identity or existence. We know who Joan is...and...we DO NOT want to see her. Joan KNOWS we don't want to see her so why the hell would we go anywhere to SEE HER?
Again, the ignorant coward is another Joan speak/language and it seems as if she is getting a little impatient that we have NOT taken her bait! What should I do? Drop my life and do what the little girl wants? Joan...you know where I live, or you can easily find out, why don't you just drop by and see me sometime?
part 3Just another false attempt to show that Champ is not Joan, therefore not a writer, who doesn't need to use spellcheck but yet, months ago wanted to impress us with their knowledge of foreign languages. Outside of the fact that typo errors do occur, most people, when they present themselves in a written matter who like to show that they are NOT ignorant...but Champ now wants us to believe that he is far more stupider than Joan. Great show!
ReplyDelete?wicked sister!! I like that, thanks for the complaint...oh sorry you were referring to Ruth now weren't you! Well okay...if she is the wicked sister, what am I? ...and yes we can read a calendar, but we are busy for the remainer of our lives and like I said I don't want to see Joan and I don't need to met with Champ or any other person that knows Joan Wheeler...so buddy you are out of luck!
Champ/Joan your 'book' writing style is showing! Than if I'm understanding you...if I don't met you and I don't response to you on your blog...you will NOT response to me? Okay...
I AM posting this comment on MY BLOG and on your blog as a comment...if you don't post my comment than I know that you are a fake and are Joan Wheeler and if you do post it and CLAIM that because I won't met you I therefore accept that you are not Joan Wheeler...you still lose because the rest of the world still sees the sickness that is in Joan/champ's mind. AND if after this post/comment, you post another comment about us then we KNOW that champ is Joan because Joan can not help herself...she wants to attack us...she needs to feel the attention.
Mental illness is no laughing matter...get yourself to your mental health clinic fast...you are showing the world just how sick you are...
Hey - why don't you man up and post my comment - the whole thing so your readers can read what I wrote - and not just pick and choose what you want to answer.
ReplyDeletesorry Joan – placing the blame on Colby for the stolen money ain’t gonna work – YOU were the one who dipped it into to fix YOUR car – not Colby – YOU were the one who told me on the phone you were keeping Mr. Campo’s refund.
As to the book – all we did was point out to Trafford Publication the following items:
1. Where Joan violated key points in her contract with them by:
a. NOT fully protecting identiies; in Trafford’s own guidelines to authors it says: “if people can recognize themselves, even if you change names, you are in violation of slander.”
b. the use of MY childhood photo while I am still living on the back cover – when Joan did not have SOLE copyright to the photograph, nor have MY permission –
I don’t care what Joan says that she spoke to a literary lawyer — she’s full of shit. She probably told him that I gave permission.
the key point is bud: IF THE PUBLISHER DID NOT AGREE WITH US, THE BOOK WOULD STILL BE IN PUBLICATION. SINCE THEY, AS PROFESSIONAL PUBLISHERS RECOGNIZED JOAN’S VIOLATING HER CONTRACT WITH THEM – THEY PULLED IT. case closed.
as to our blogs being me, me, me – well yeah idiot – they are. uh, duh! My blog is about the abuse that Joan heaped on me.
And getting back to the book: where she says that I have a criminal and arrest record – WRONG – I have never been arrested in my life. Where she says that she has gotten multiple orders of protection agains me: WRONG – she only had one. Where she says that order was for one year – WRONG – it was for only six months. Where she says I placed on probation – WRONG – I was never placed on probation.
I HAVE SCANNED AND POSTED ALL THE COURT DOCUMENTS RELATING TO THESE THINGS ON MY BLOG. -
go on now smarty pants – go defend her on that shit.
Joan has also written letters to Albany, New York – the Child Abuse center and told them I was placed on probation She wrote to the mayor of Buffalo saying I was placed on probation.
As far back as 1995 Joan has been slandering me, ruining my reputation with elected officials with this lie.
AND I POSTED THAT LETTER ON MY BLOG – WHERE SHE SAYS I WAS PLACED ON PROBATION AND I POSTED THE COURT DOCUMENT WHERE IT SAYS I WAS NOT.
sorry Charlie – you lose again.